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		<title>By: packard woodworks</title>
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		<dc:creator>packard woodworks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 22:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: WakaWakaWaka</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 21:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree with NotTufts a little that perhaps 16-4 was a little pie in the sky and perhaps not necessarily where the bar should have been set, but never would i have imagined that we&#039;d be 12-8 right now.

leaving the NW game on saturday i was thinking that it&#039;s a combination of 2 things...

1) DMC, Tisdale, and Davis aren&#039;t world beaters.  Tis and Davis have monster games every so often, but then manage to disappear for the next couple of games.  we need to get consistent contribution from all 3 of those guys to really show any hint of being a good team, and like you said in an earlier post, Mike D has been MIA (with the exception of the PU game) since we played Gonzaga.  something&#039;s wrong with his jumper and he hasn&#039;t figured out how to fix it yet.

2) our freshmen are playing like freshmen and making dumb mistakes from time to time.  both DJ and Paul are also inconsistent, but they at least have a little leeway in that department.

the thing that has been the most perplexing is the awful defense that we play for stretches of the game.  i don&#039;t remember seeing the &quot;help on every single drive!&quot; defense last year, when we were arguably less athletic.  maybe Trent was a far better defender than people gave him credit for, but holy tihs we look bad out there this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree with NotTufts a little that perhaps 16-4 was a little pie in the sky and perhaps not necessarily where the bar should have been set, but never would i have imagined that we&#8217;d be 12-8 right now.</p>
<p>leaving the NW game on saturday i was thinking that it&#8217;s a combination of 2 things&#8230;</p>
<p>1) DMC, Tisdale, and Davis aren&#8217;t world beaters.  Tis and Davis have monster games every so often, but then manage to disappear for the next couple of games.  we need to get consistent contribution from all 3 of those guys to really show any hint of being a good team, and like you said in an earlier post, Mike D has been MIA (with the exception of the PU game) since we played Gonzaga.  something&#8217;s wrong with his jumper and he hasn&#8217;t figured out how to fix it yet.</p>
<p>2) our freshmen are playing like freshmen and making dumb mistakes from time to time.  both DJ and Paul are also inconsistent, but they at least have a little leeway in that department.</p>
<p>the thing that has been the most perplexing is the awful defense that we play for stretches of the game.  i don&#8217;t remember seeing the &#8220;help on every single drive!&#8221; defense last year, when we were arguably less athletic.  maybe Trent was a far better defender than people gave him credit for, but holy tihs we look bad out there this year.</p>
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		<title>By: NoNotTufts</title>
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		<dc:creator>NoNotTufts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 23:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Far-fetched? No. But I also don&#039;t think it&#039;s the minimum standard for acceptable, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Far-fetched? No. But I also don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s the minimum standard for acceptable, either.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://alioneye.com/2010/01/25/12-8/comment-page-1/#comment-3706</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 16:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think so.  Before the season, I expected to win the Vegas tourney, lose two games in the non-con (maybe lose at Clemson and go 2-1 against Vandy/Missouri/Gonzaga).  I then expected to start 6-2 in the Big Ten at a minimum (if we&#039;d lose at Penn State, maybe we&#039;d beat Purdue at home to make up for it).

So yeah - I don&#039;t think 16-4 was far fetched at all, given that it was our easiest Big Ten start in maybe 30 years.  The schedule appeared backloaded, so I figured we&#039;d finish 3-7 in our last ten Big Ten games and squeak into the tourney at something like 22-12.  But a 12-8 start - with that schedule - is hard to comprehend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think so.  Before the season, I expected to win the Vegas tourney, lose two games in the non-con (maybe lose at Clemson and go 2-1 against Vandy/Missouri/Gonzaga).  I then expected to start 6-2 in the Big Ten at a minimum (if we&#8217;d lose at Penn State, maybe we&#8217;d beat Purdue at home to make up for it).</p>
<p>So yeah &#8211; I don&#8217;t think 16-4 was far fetched at all, given that it was our easiest Big Ten start in maybe 30 years.  The schedule appeared backloaded, so I figured we&#8217;d finish 3-7 in our last ten Big Ten games and squeak into the tourney at something like 22-12.  But a 12-8 start &#8211; with that schedule &#8211; is hard to comprehend.</p>
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		<title>By: NoNotTufts</title>
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		<dc:creator>NoNotTufts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 15:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>16-4? Really? So reverse Utah, Bradley, Georgia, and Northwestern, and we&#039;ve found the absolute floor? 

So if we hadn&#039;t won at Clemson, but reversed those 4, you&#039;re disappointed with the season? Vanderbilt? 

This season has been a disappointment, to be sure, but 16-4 is a little far-fetched, in my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>16-4? Really? So reverse Utah, Bradley, Georgia, and Northwestern, and we&#8217;ve found the absolute floor? </p>
<p>So if we hadn&#8217;t won at Clemson, but reversed those 4, you&#8217;re disappointed with the season? Vanderbilt? </p>
<p>This season has been a disappointment, to be sure, but 16-4 is a little far-fetched, in my opinion.</p>
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